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		<title>Hello, Yiying! The creator of the “Fail Whale”</title>
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		<description>After hearing that the Fail Whale article on Wikipedia was scheduled for early deletion, I felt compelled to help edit it to meet the standards of the Wikipedians — at least, the inclusionists.
It was — and still is — quite important to me to clarify the relationship between the picture of the whale, the name [...]</description>
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<p>After hearing that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail_Whale">Fail Whale article on Wikipedia</a> was scheduled for early deletion, I felt compelled to help edit it to meet the standards of the Wikipedians — at least, the <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Inclusionism">inclusionists</a>.</p>
<p>It was — and still is — quite important to me to clarify the relationship between the picture of the whale, the name the community gave it, the personality projected by the community on it, and the <a href="http://twitter.com/failwhale">@failwhale</a> account created by <a href="http://twitter.com/seanosteen" title="Sean O'Steen">@seanosteen</a>.</p>
<p>Luckily, James Governor had written an article “<a href="http://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/06/26/the-designer-who-gave-us-fail-whale-and-showing-the-whale/">The Designer Who Gave Us Fail Whale and Showing The Whale</a>”:</p>
<blockquote><p>I had assumed Twitter was using designs it had paid for for its Fail page, but apparently not. Courtesy of <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/jgovernor/2008/06/26/in-praise-of-downtime-twitter-as-phenomenon/#comment-410473">John Wilson’s comment</a> on my last blog about Twitter, a couple of hours ago, came news the famous whale is a stock shot from <a href="http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/animals/animal-backgrounds/4611821-lift-a-dreamer.php?id=4611821">here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yiyinglu.com/sc/illustration">Yiying Lu</a> is the fantastic designer behind the image we all see, and love, so much. Frankly I think Twitter should use more of their work to give us some variety, and also give Yiying a lot more credit. How about a service sleeping owl?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Thanks to James’ detective work and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fail_Whale&#038;direction=next&#038;oldid=222162170">Kapanka&#8217;s edit</a>, the Wikipedia article already linked to Yiying, but it lacked a lot of detail.</p>
<p>So, I sent Yiying a tweet and an SMS, and we ended up talking on Skype. I wish I&#8217;d recorded it, as she&#8217;s great interview talent. All I can do here is report the story:</p>
<p>Yiying was studying at <a href="http://www.uts.edu.au/">UTS</a> when she drew “<a href="http://www.yiyinglu.com/sc/illustration">Lifting a Dreamer</a>”. To help support her studies, Yiying put it up on <a href="http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/animals/animal-backgrounds/4611821-lift-a-dreamer.php?id=4611821">iStockPhoto</a> not realising that the site was more for generic images — say, a mobile phone on a white background — than for personal works of art.</p>
<p>Yiying isn&#8217;t sure exactly when Twitter downloaded the picture, and so can&#8217;t nail down exactly what they paid for the license to use it, but estimates it was around USD$5-10.</p>
<p>Eventually, someone let Yiying know: “your whale is getting bigger! people see it every hour…”, she saw it on Twitter, and <a href="http://twitter.com/tlimongello" title="Tom Limongello">@tlimongello</a> contacted Yiying from the USA to get her permission to put the Fail Whale on some T-shirts. <a href="http://twitter.com/seanosteen" title="Sean O'Steen">@seanosteen</a> had already registered <a href="http://failwhale.com/" title="The Fail Whale Fan Club">failwhale.com</a> for  fan blog. After some discussion, Yiying set up the <a href="http://zazzle.com/failwhale" title="Fail Whale Online Store">online store</a> to meet community demand for Fail Whale memorabilia. She also deactivated the image on iStockPhoto to prevent further commercial use of the image.</p>
<p>To this date, nobody at Twitter has yet contacted Yiying. As of the last sightings of the Fail Whale — soon to be rare, about which I&#8217;ve got mixed feelings — the image remains unattributed. So, I&#8217;m delighted to spread the word about the true origins of the Fail Whale.</p>
<p>Back to that delightful mix of image, name, personality, and tribute persona, though: I think Yiying nailed it during our call when she said:</p>
<blockquote><p>“This is a social object — it&#8217;s not only my thing. It&#8217;s my graphic, but how this graphic got famous… it&#8217;s the social power, the Twitter power.”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>That Twitter power is now engaging with the artist, not just her image.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/2008/06/yiying-failwhale/">Hello, Yiying! The creator of the “Fail Whale”</a></p>
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		<title>Nudi of the Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>garth</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>Thanks to @codinghorror: David Doubilet&amp;#8217;s amazing nudibranch pictures in National Geographic magazine.

(The title is homage to a web site that used to exist. I can&amp;#8217;t find it, now.)
This is a post from Deadly Bloody Serious. 
Nudi of the Day</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to <a href="http://twitter.com/codinghorror/statuses/811523571">@codinghorror</a>: <a href="http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/06/nudibranchs/doubilet-photography">David Doubilet&#8217;s amazing nudibranch pictures</a> in National Geographic magazine.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/nudibranchse28094photo-gallerye28094national-geographic-magazine.png'><img border="0" src="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/nudibranchse28094photo-gallerye28094national-geographic-magazine-300x210.png" alt="David Doubilet\&#039;s amazing nudibranch pictures in the National Geographic" title="Nudi of the Day" width="300" height="210" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-2056" /></a></p>
<p>(The title is homage to a web site that used to exist. I can&#8217;t find it, now.)</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/2008/05/nudi-of-the-day/">Nudi of the Day</a></p>
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		<title>Default arguments in Python: two easy blunders</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>garth</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>I&amp;#8217;m glad I stumbled across Patrick Altman&amp;#8217;s tweet about a &amp;#8220;default bug in Django&amp;#8220;. I&amp;#8217;d never have guessed you can pass a callable to a field&amp;#8217;s default= argument, otherwise. That&amp;#8217;s quite a powerful idiom, and I think I&amp;#8217;ll use it a lot.

To balance the karma, I&amp;#8217;d like to post a quick reminder to everyone else [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I stumbled across Patrick Altman&#8217;s tweet about a &#8220;<a href="http://twitter.com/paltman/statuses/805904948">default bug in Django</a>&#8220;. I&#8217;d never have guessed you can <b>pass a callable to a field&#8217;s default= argument</b>, otherwise. That&#8217;s quite a powerful idiom, and I think I&#8217;ll use it a lot.
</p>
<p>To balance the karma, I&#8217;d like to post a quick reminder to everyone else that <b>expressions in default arguments are calculated when the function is defined</b>, <i>not</i> when it&#8217;s called. In Patrick&#8217;s code, for example, all objects created in the same running session got the same timestamp. Try this in the Python interactive prompt:
</p>
<p>
<pre>&gt;&gt;&gt;import time
&gt;&gt;&gt; def report(<strong>when=time.time()</strong>):
...     print when
...
&gt;&gt;&gt; report()
1210294387.19
&gt;&gt;&gt; time.sleep(5)
&gt;&gt;&gt; report()
<strong>1210294387.19</strong></pre>
</p>
<p>Until the interpreter quits, you&#8217;ll always get the same timestamp. The correct way to go about this is to default to None or some other sentinel, then replace it inside the function:</p>
<p>
<pre>&gt;&gt;&gt; def report(<strong>when=None</strong>):
...     <strong>if when is None:</strong>
...         <strong>when = time.time()</strong>
...     print when
...
&gt;&gt;&gt; report()
1210294762.29
&gt;&gt;&gt; time.sleep(5)
&gt;&gt;&gt; report()
<strong>1210294772.23</strong></pre>
</p>
<p>Now that you know about that blunder, you should be able to figure out what&#8217;s going on with this second classic blunder when using default arguments in Python:</p>
<p>
<pre>&gt;&gt;&gt; def spam(eggs=[]):
...     eggs.append("spam")
...     return eggs
...
&gt;&gt;&gt; spam()
['spam']
&gt;&gt;&gt; spam()
['spam', 'spam']
&gt;&gt;&gt; spam()
['spam', 'spam', 'spam']
&gt;&gt;&gt; spam()
['spam', 'spam', 'spam', 'spam']</pre></p>
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		<title>Twitter Emergency Backup</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>garth</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://twitter.com/davewiner"&gt;Dave Winer&lt;/a&gt; has been thinking about ways to preserve the Twitter community even when Twitter is down. His latest effort is &lt;a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/05/04/aNewWebServiceForTwitterCl.html"&gt;a web service to save Twitter feeds&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://twitter.com/davewiner">Dave Winer</a> has been thinking about ways to preserve the Twitter community even when Twitter is down. His latest effort is <a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/05/04/aNewWebServiceForTwitterCl.html">a web service to save Twitter feeds</a> and expose their content via another feed.</p>
<p>I tried it out, but couldn&#8217;t parse the response: </p>
<p>
<pre>
Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Jan 17 2008, 19:35:17)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import xmlrpclib, urllib2
>>> twittergram = xmlrpclib.Server("http://rpc.twittergram.com/RPC2/")
>>> content = urllib2.urlopen("http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/704593.rss").read()
>>> twittergram.saveFeed('garthk', '*****', content)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/xmlrpclib.py", line 1147, in __call__
    return self.__send(self.__name, args)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/xmlrpclib.py", line 1437, in __request
    verbose=self.__verbose
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/xmlrpclib.py", line 1201, in request
    return self._parse_response(h.getfile(), sock)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/xmlrpclib.py", line 1335, in _parse_response
    p.feed(response)
  File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/xmlrpclib.py", line 547, in feed
    self._parser.Parse(data, 0)
xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: mismatched tag: line 10, column 7</module></stdin></pre>
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<p>I&#8217;ll investigate later.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to wade into this kind of problem domain, perhaps using <a href="http://code.google.com/appengine/">Google App Engine</a> for hosting so I didn&#8217;t have to worry about usage spikes. Feed backup is a brilliant start. We also need to helping our followers find the feeds, and I&#8217;m sure more thought will yield more areas for <strike>fun</strike>improvement.</p>
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		<dc:creator>garth</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>Just before Twitter went completely dark, I saw this:

I&amp;#8217;m sure it&amp;#8217;ll be back up soon, but &amp;#8217;twas nice to have a laugh before hitting the sack. 
(Speaking of irony: I have 666 unread items in my feed reader&amp;#8217;s Productivity folder…)
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Twitter&amp;#8217;s Famous Last Words?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just before Twitter went completely dark, I saw this:</p>
<p><img src="http://img.skitch.com/20080502-85a37yp5kjxmn9r4p9iegdi6x3.png" alt="last words"/></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll be back up soon, but &#8217;twas nice to have a laugh before hitting the sack. </p>
<p>(Speaking of irony: I have <a href="http://serious.tumblr.com/post/33500923">666 unread items</a> in my feed reader&#8217;s Productivity folder…)</p>
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		<title>Wireless network “appears compromised”</title>
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		<description>I&amp;#8217;m seeing a lot of this disturbing little error message: &amp;#8220;The wireless network appears to have been compromised and will be disabled for about a minute.&amp;#8221;

A poke around the Internet doesn&amp;#8217;t show much other than other people complaining about the same problem. Some find the only way to solve the problem is to disable WPA. [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seeing a lot of this disturbing little error message: &#8220;The wireless network appears to have been compromised and will be disabled for about a minute.&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/wirelessnetworkappearscompromised.png" width="480" height="213" alt="The wireless network appears to have been compromised..." /></p>
<p>A poke around the Internet doesn&#8217;t show much other than other people complaining about the same problem. Some find the only way to solve the problem is to disable WPA. I&#8217;m not so sure that&#8217;s a smart idea. I hope there&#8217;s a fix for this in 10.5.2.</p>
<p>[If you're getting this on what you think is a Django-only feed, it's because the community feed administrators haven't yet updated their subscription to point to my Django posts only. Sorry about that.]</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/2008/01/wireless-network-appears-compromised/">Wireless network &#8220;appears compromised&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>Zephyr’s sense of humour, age 2.5</title>
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		<description>Zephyr, this morning: 
Zephyr big boy. Daddy big boy. Mummy big girl. Willow big chicken pox.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zephyr, this morning: </p>
<blockquote><p>Zephyr big boy. Daddy big boy. Mummy big girl. Willow big chicken pox.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/2007/10/zephyr-humour/">Zephyr&#8217;s sense of humour, age 2.5</a></p>
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		<title>QuickPost Wordpress Plugin - Version .4 is now available</title>
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		<description>QuickPost Wordpress Plugin - Version .4 is now available 
So far, so good, except for the database error (wp_categories doesn&amp;#39;t exist) under WordPress 2.3&amp;#8230; 
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QuickPost Wordpress Plugin - Version .4 is now available</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.twelvehorses.com/blog/quickpost-wordpress-plugin-version-4-is-now-available/#comments">QuickPost Wordpress Plugin - Version .4 is now available </a></p>
<p>So far, so good, except for the database error (wp_categories doesn&#39;t exist) under WordPress 2.3&#8230; </p>
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<p><a href="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/2007/10/quickpost-wordpress-plugin-version-4-is-now-available/">QuickPost Wordpress Plugin - Version .4 is now available</a></p>
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		<title>Admiral Sir Reginald Aylmer Ranfurly Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax</title>
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		<description>Yep. Quadruple-barrelled.
I always wondered what&amp;#39;d happen if one double-barrelled person married another double-barrelled person. Reg Drax here seems to be Exhibit A.&amp;#160; 
Our kids are double-barrelled. To save them from Reg&amp;#39; fate, we carefuly chose their middle names so they could ditch the two surnames entirely if necessary.&amp;#160; 
Thanks, Merlin!&amp;#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.kungfugrippe.com/post/10554533">Yep. Quadruple-barrelled.</a></p>
<p>I always wondered what&#39;d happen if one double-barrelled person married another double-barrelled person. Reg Drax here seems to be Exhibit A.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Our kids are double-barrelled. To save them from Reg&#39; fate, we carefuly chose their middle names so they could ditch the two surnames entirely if necessary.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Thanks, Merlin!&nbsp;</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.deadlybloodyserious.com/2007/09/admiral-sir-reginald-aylmer-ranfurly-plunkett-ernle-erle-drax/">Admiral Sir Reginald Aylmer Ranfurly Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax</a></p>
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		<title>Django vs feedparser on dates</title>
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		<description>I&amp;#39;m having trouble storing feedparser results in a Django model. 
It&amp;#39;s all about timestamps. Feedparser returns timestamps in a standard time nine-tuple, asserting UTC. Django wants datetime objects. So, I&amp;#39;m trying to translate:
django_timestamp = datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp(time.mktime(feedparser_timestamp))
feedparser_timestamp = django_timestamp.utctimetuple()

This works fine for the majority of timestamps, but sometimes translating to datetime and back mutates the timestamp. In [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m having trouble storing <a href="http://www.feedparser.org/" title="Universal Feed Parser">feedparser</a> results in a <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/" title="The web framework for perfectionists with deadlines">Django</a> model. </p>
<p>It&#39;s all about timestamps. Feedparser returns timestamps in a standard <a href="http://docs.python.org/lib/module-time.html" title="14.2 time -- Time access and conversions">time</a> nine-tuple, asserting UTC. Django wants <a href="http://docs.python.org/lib/module-datetime.html" title="5.1 datetime -- Basic date and time types">datetime</a> objects. So, I&#39;m trying to translate:</p>
<blockquote><p>django_timestamp = datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp(time.mktime(feedparser_timestamp))</p>
<p>feedparser_timestamp = django_timestamp.utctimetuple()</p>
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<p>This works fine for the majority of timestamps, but sometimes translating to datetime and back mutates the timestamp. In turn, that makes get-if-modified-since somewhat unreliable. Here are some examples, from my log file: </p>
<blockquote><p>WARNING: (2004, 11, 19, 5, 13, 31, 4, 324, 0) =&gt; datetime.datetime(2004, 11, 19, 6, 13, 31) =&gt; (2004, 11, 19, 6, 13, 31, 4, 324, 0)</p>
<p>WARNING: (2005, 11, 2, 2, 17, 55, 2, 306, 0) =&gt; datetime.datetime(2005, 11, 2, 3, 17, 55) =&gt; (2005, 11, 2, 3, 17, 55, 2, 306, 0)</p>
<p>WARNING: (2006, 12, 13, 0, 21, 25, 2, 347, 0) =&gt; datetime.datetime(2006, 12, 13, 1, 21, 25) =&gt; (2006, 12, 13, 1, 21, 25, 2, 347, 0)</p>
<p>WARNING: (2004, 11, 14, 23, 55, 31, 6, 319, 0) =&gt; datetime.datetime(2004, 11, 15, 0, 55, 31) =&gt; (2004, 11, 15, 0, 55, 31, 0, 320, 0)&nbsp;</p>
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<p>I&#39;m off by an hour. I smell a problem with daylight savings. I just wish I knew what to do about it.&nbsp; </p>
<p>I&#39;ve waved a dead chicken at this one all the ways I know how. Every change I make breaks the conversion entirely. So, I&#39;m throwing this out to the community in the hope that someone can help me.&nbsp; </p>
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